e1b1b in spain is brought by roman

Bulletproofpride	Dec 28 2012, 12:44 AMPost #48
Advanced Member Posts: 4,957 Group: Members Member #3,495 Joined: Jun 19, 2012 Religion: Muslim	martin Dec 28 2012, 12:31 AM Bulletproofpride Dec 28 2012, 12:28 AM martin Dec 28 2012, 12:21 AM I confirm that the presence of E1b first is related to Carthage and the Roman Legionary troops from this region, because Spain was under the rule of Roman Carthage. I have no problem admitting presence oldest dating back to the early Neolithic, if you can demonstrate that this is the case for Italy, Albania ... but for the moment nothing is shown except that quote and not out of my imagination, you should know that before the intrusion of Rome culture of the Celts and Iberians Hispanic flourished, protected on the south by the currents of the Strait of Gibraltar and to the north by bar Pyrenees with the only contact people of Greek and Phoenician maritime traders who bought the copper and gold. On the other hand the location of E are too ad hoc and limited geographically to ancient beings in time if we would like one homogéinity Italy from north to south with a wide range of mutation and we would be in the situation of the Canary Islands but there is nothing like it. The presence of E1b in Iberian Peninsula seems to be clearly related to the occupation and the Carthaginian presence like Muslim presence in the southeast J1 YDNA and mtDNA T1. E-v13 is ancient in Italy and the Balkans.  E-m81 is ancient in Iberia.  Are you happy now? Bring facts! Genetically it does not hold. You are like those who say that the Basque are natives of Europe by denying the facts that make this theory we are inconsistent with E1b or E-m81 the same dogmatic discourse and not constructive I would even nostalgic for R1b or R-z196, you are doctrinaire. . My friend E-m81 is found as far as Northern France/Belgium. North Africans never went there. Neither did the Phoenicians. It is ancient in Europe. Andalusia (the place were Islamic religion lasted longer, specifically Western Andalusia) has less E-M81 than some northern regions such as Galicia, Cantabria, Valencia, Castille, which essentially means the presence of this subclade in Iberia has very little to do with the Islamic period, in other words, the moors (in the ethnic sense) had a very minoritary presence in Spain.  http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/5028320/3/