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    What make any of you think that there weren't many dark haired Celts in the first place ?

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    yeah but dark haired celts arent iberian mediterraneans or eastern mediterraneans either they are paleo atlantid or something thats differnt from the iberian mediterranean imo! iberian mediterraneans are shorter darker and darker eyed

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    Quote Originally Posted by maltesekid View Post
    yeah but dark haired celts arent iberian mediterraneans or eastern mediterraneans either they are paleo atlantid or something thats differnt from the iberian mediterranean imo! iberian mediterraneans are shorter darker and darker eyed
    So, what do you think an "Iberian Mediterranean" is supposed to look like?

    Penelope Cruz may or may not be typical of a Western Mediterranean person. A majority of Spanish and Portuguese are more Paleo-Atlantid (P-A) and Nordid-Atlantid (N-A), than Mediterranean. You find a good number of P-A and N-A types in the U.K. and Ireland as well.

    BTW, Western Mediterraneans and Atlanto-Mediterraneans have somewhat different phenotypes than Eastern Mediterraneans. There are some similarities but they are generally NOT THE SAME.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilhelm View Post
    I don't find Cruz to be particularly 'dark'
    Me neither. George Clooney is way darker.

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    Universally, men are usually darker than women. Testosterone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    What make any of you think that there weren't many dark haired Celts in the first place ?
    In fact, a large majority of "original" Celts may have had dark features.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maltesekid View Post
    yeah but dark haired celts arent iberian mediterraneans or eastern mediterraneans either they are paleo atlantid or something thats differnt from the iberian mediterranean imo! iberian mediterraneans are shorter darker and darker eyed
    Why shorter ? They are not shorter, The average height of Spain is the same as in other european countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    What make any of you think that there weren't many dark haired Celts in the first place ?
    Stephen Oppenheimer believes that Celts were a mediterranean people...
    It's not so strange.
    People think that because the English, Welsh, Irish, are highly blonde and fair, they automatically think that Celts were blonde and fair. And that's because of the Germanics (Anglo-Saxons) and Vkings (Danish and Normans) invasions, , not because of Celts...(mostly)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilhelm View Post
    Stephen Oppenheimer believes that Celts were a mediterranean people...
    It's not so strange.
    People think that because the English, Welsh, Irish, are highly blonde and fair, they automatically think that Celts were blonde and fair. And that's because of the Germanics (Anglo-Saxons) and Vkings (Danish and Normans) invasions, , not because of Celts...(mostly)
    The Celts might have been predominantly R1b, but that doesn't mean much. They were originally indo-European who mixed with people of the Danube valley (native Europeans + Near-Eastern immigrants) before becoming the Celts in Central and Western Europe. So they were not "pure" Indo-Europeans. Yamna people and the first Yamna migrants to Bulgaria, Romania, Serbia and Hungary all had Proto-Europoid skulls (i.e. with mixed Europoid and Mongoloid features). Classical Celts as depicted by the Greeks and Romans did not look like that at all. Maternal lineages of the Celts were surely overwhelmingly non-IE. One good proof is that mt-haplogroup U3, common around the Black Sea where IE people originated, is very rare in Central and Western Europe, especially west of Italy and Germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    The Celts might have been predominantly R1b, but that doesn't mean much. They were originally indo-European who mixed with people of the Danube valley (native Europeans + Near-Eastern immigrants) before becoming the Celts in Central and Western Europe. So they were not "pure" Indo-Europeans. Yamna people and the first Yamna migrants to Bulgaria, Romania, Serbia and Hungary all had Proto-Europoid skulls (i.e. with mixed Europoid and Mongoloid features). Classical Celts as depicted by the Greeks and Romans did not look like that at all.
    Yes, and being the Celts from Southern France and central Europe, it is more
    probable that they were dark-haired, chestnut,..like today's southern france, Switzerland, and Southern Austria...

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    Quote Originally Posted by maltesekid View Post
    yeah but dark haired celts arent iberian mediterraneans or eastern mediterraneans either they are paleo atlantid or something thats differnt from the iberian mediterranean imo! iberian mediterraneans are shorter darker and darker eyed
    And what the hell are the iberian mediterraneans supposed to be ??
    Celts are part of the iberian mediterranean make-up.
    They are not shorter nor darker...Please, talk with some foundation..


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