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Will you make a video about Italy's higher levels of E1b1b, J1? If Spain can't be considered European for having a combined level of 6% E1b1b and 1% J1, then what about Italy?·
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J1 is not jewish !! WTF !! J1 is so Old in Africa before being expanding into europe
for example nubians are 74% of J1 since the Neolithic· 응답 대상: aattitude -
Well, J1 is common in the middle east. Therefore, a lot of Jewish people whose ancestry would be traced from any part in the middle east would have that gene. I'm not saying it originated there, but that it is very common there and that its frequencies are very high there (for a quite a long time).
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its also very commun among Kushitic groups Like Amhara ethiopians and Arsi Ethiopians , Beja , Eritereans and Nubians plus sudanese People ! ! ! frequencies from 36% to 74%
hence J1 is not really commun among middle easterns J1 among lebanese is only about 11% ! ! !
J1 is common among arabian peninsulars like Yemenites saudis qataris Omanis Emaratis frequencies from 30% to 65% ! but not Levantines or anatolians plus Iranians -
You are simply pointing out the exceptions within the middle east. Overall, it is very common in the mid east.
But I do agree that it is also common around Sudan/Ethiopia. -
east africa is not middle east ! and arabia peninsula is southern middle east !! and not all middle east is the same geography ! nor peoples are the same ... its Irrelvant
J1 in europe goes back to neolithic not during the historic times ...mainly from north east africa to europe. and J's are not really very common as you think ..Js are commun commong middle eastern indu-europeans kurds northren iranians anatolians etc ... -
I didn't say it was the middle east; I said the mid east and ALSO Sudan/Ethiopia.
Yes, I agree that most of the European J1 is prehistoric.
But it is mostly common in the areas I mentioned. The Arabian Peninsula is packed with it. -
arabia peninsula has received its J1 density from east africa and not from the Levant or mesopotamia. both Levantines does not share the J1 types with arabians In fact Nubians have the ancestral type of J1's arabians. J1 is originally from kurdistan in eastern turkey before 10.000 he expanding into Sinai and then to Nubia. a few time he enriched ethiopia and then to Yemen and all over arabia.
thats happened between 5000BC to 1500BC! so J1 is not arabian at all nor really midd-eastern -
ok, even if the origin is eastern Turkey, it had expanded into the mid east in prehistoric times and much of the mid east population has had that paternal marker since then, which long enough to consider it a "middle eastern" gene.
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Not really! J1 is diverged to many clusters that are not founded or even not diverse in such places: for examples ! most of nubians are J1c3d-L147 just like arabians! while J1c3d-L147 is nearly 1% in Lebanon! and we have another example of J1c3d1-I222.2 more frequent and diverse among africans than arabians. total of J1c3d1 at 90% among Sudanese while its only 69% among saudi arabians and Yemenites! THE ORIGIN of haplogroups is RELATIVE and not really linked to its Haplogroup ancestry
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Look, J1 has been in Arabia and many other parts of the mid east for THOUSANDS of years. And eastern Turkey isn't that far away from the Middle East anyway.
Ok, so in the Levant, it is not as common as in other parts of the middle east. That still doesn't refute my point that J1 is "typically" a middle eastern Haplgroup. It is very common in the mid east AND also in some parts of North eastern Africa.
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if u said that J1 is typically middle eastern marker then you lumped such african groups with middle easterns Like Nubians Nilo-saharans , Beja, Kushitics and Ethiopians etc ... did u think that Nubians who were slaves of ancient egyptians were the same such as phoenicians and Jews or Like assyrians and Babylonians ?!
yeah. I know spain is allmost R1b. the second haplotype was E1b1b1 some parts in spain goes back from 25% to 5% except central spain which is nearly Nul ! -
J1 is old enough to have been present in Africa and the Middle East for thousands of years, so just because two peoples share prehistoric paternal ancestry, it doesn't mean they're the same culture.http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=te8FU3dVpGQ
Sunday, February 10, 2013
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